Comments on: Open-Source Cocoa (almost) for Windows http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/ don't you worry about blank, let me worry about blank Tue, 13 May 2008 02:59:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1-alpha2 by: Justin http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-13001 Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:26:03 +0000 http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-13001 I absolutely love how people get so amazingly upset when people do things they don't like. Sounds like the guy 'Huh' from above was going to have an aneurysm or something. I think the whole thing is grrrrreat! I absolutely love how people get so amazingly upset when people do things they don’t like. Sounds like the guy ‘Huh’ from above was going to have an aneurysm or something.

I think the whole thing is grrrrreat!

]]> by: l0ne http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3542 Sun, 24 Dec 2006 22:26:56 +0000 http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3542 Günther: Cocotron allows for seamless development of *Step apps from inside Xcode; also, the AppKit and Foundation frameworks are self-contained (Foundation contains the Objective-C runtime) and embeddable, not requiring a whole system directory hierarchy to function correctly. Günther: Cocotron allows for seamless development of *Step apps from inside Xcode; also, the AppKit and Foundation frameworks are self-contained (Foundation contains the Objective-C runtime) and embeddable, not requiring a whole system directory hierarchy to function correctly.

]]> by: Günther http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3535 Sun, 24 Dec 2006 15:48:08 +0000 http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3535 Cocotron looks interesting. Coming from a GNUstep background, I'm a bit concerned about the duplicate effort that's done by the two projects. (There's also a discussion on the GNUstep mailing lists about that which you may be interested in.) I read on your information pages that the goals are different from GNUstep. What exactly is the difference? Cocotron looks interesting. Coming from a GNUstep background, I’m a bit concerned about the duplicate effort that’s done by the two projects. (There’s also a discussion on the GNUstep mailing lists about that which you may be interested in.) I read on your information pages that the goals are different from GNUstep. What exactly is the difference?

]]> by: l0ne http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3517 Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:37:14 +0000 http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3517 David: the APSL is basically a BSD license, with clauses to prevent you from rebuilding the whole of Mac OS X starting from Darwin (ie you cannot add the proprietary kexts from an OS X installation to Darwin to turn into a simil-OS X, which is a violation of Freedom Zero, but should not prevent compatibility with the MIT license). David: the APSL is basically a BSD license, with clauses to prevent you from rebuilding the whole of Mac OS X starting from Darwin (ie you cannot add the proprietary kexts from an OS X installation to Darwin to turn into a simil-OS X, which is a violation of Freedom Zero, but should not prevent compatibility with the MIT license).

]]> by: David Young http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3516 Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:32:46 +0000 http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3516 RabidSnai: The coupling between Cocotron and Win32 is deliberately very loose, it's designed to be able to accept multiple graphics backends. Win32 is certainly the best-implemented and best-tested, at the moment. Eduo: the roadmap largely is up for discussion. Best place to get involved is the <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/cocotron-dev" rel="nofollow">Google Group</a> for project developers. RabidSnai: The coupling between Cocotron and Win32 is deliberately very loose, it’s designed to be able to accept multiple graphics backends. Win32 is certainly the best-implemented and best-tested, at the moment.

Eduo: the roadmap largely is up for discussion. Best place to get involved is the Google Group for project developers.

]]> by: Eduo http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3504 Sun, 24 Dec 2006 00:50:26 +0000 http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3504 Very cool indeed. I've been clamoring for something like this for some time now. Is there a roadmap of sorts? A compatibility list? Things to avoid? Very cool indeed. I’ve been clamoring for something like this for some time now.

Is there a roadmap of sorts? A compatibility list? Things to avoid?

]]> by: David Young http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3498 Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:39:54 +0000 http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3498 CF-Lite would be interesting to integrate, as would the ongoing effort to get WebKit going on Windows. A key feature of Cocotron, though, is its permissive license, and I'm not familiar with the APSL enough to say whether or not integrating the projects would compromise the freedoms granted by the MIT License. From my perspective (and I imagine that a lot of third-party developers would agree), it's very important that I be able to use open-source technologies in a way such that I can continue to earn a living. :) CF-Lite would be interesting to integrate, as would the ongoing effort to get WebKit going on Windows. A key feature of Cocotron, though, is its permissive license, and I’m not familiar with the APSL enough to say whether or not integrating the projects would compromise the freedoms granted by the MIT License.

From my perspective (and I imagine that a lot of third-party developers would agree), it’s very important that I be able to use open-source technologies in a way such that I can continue to earn a living. :)

]]> by: Otto http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3495 Sat, 23 Dec 2006 17:26:47 +0000 http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3495 Did you include CF-LITE in you're cross compile set? The combination of this, with CF-LITE and some of the porting going on with webcore/javascript core have many possiblities Did you include CF-LITE in you’re cross compile set?
The combination of this, with CF-LITE and some of the porting going on with webcore/javascript core have many possiblities

]]> by: jack ash http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3488 Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:17:02 +0000 http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3488 what exactly does this provide? I don't understand what exactly does this provide? I don’t understand

]]> by: mighty-joe http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3473 Sat, 23 Dec 2006 07:25:22 +0000 http://www.stuffonfire.com/2006/12/22/open-source-cocoa-almost-for-windows/#comment-3473 huh?: why the F*** did you start talking? Anyway, David, Christopher, you did a great job! Keep up the good work! huh?: why the F*** did you start talking?
Anyway, David, Christopher, you did a great job! Keep up the good work!

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